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May 17, 2023
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GenXUte
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Anecdotal evidence. Gimme a break.
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I have heard more stories lately of BYU grads applying to U Med School not being
BillyGoat
5/16/23 9:29pm
Same. I have a BIL that was determined to go to Utah's med school, and was advised to transfer from BYU to Weber State
Ragnar Danneskjold
5/16/23 9:33pm
The church needs to separate from that anti school. Stop being nice, stop
palangi
5/16/23 9:37pm
Years ago, Dr Heckman was tasked w planning a law school and med school
Sam's Dad
5/16/23 10:02pm
Worked closely w/ Dr Heckman. I graduated in 1983. Best histology professor on
Pine
5/16/23 10:45pm
You need to document all this and write a book. History needs to be kept plus
7FootRussian
5/17/23 9:08am
Could the Russel M. Nelson school of medicine be something we hear about
SurfCoug
5/17/23 9:37am
Not likely. The cost of a medical school is astronomical. Without the funding
BYUlv
5/17/23 1:41pm
Those are well known obstacles, but
SurfCoug
5/17/23 3:33pm
I just don't see it happening, but stranger things have happened.
BYUlv
5/17/23 4:02pm
Without a tertiary research-based hospital it would be garbage from the get-go.
cougfanz
5/17/23 5:58pm
I have heard similar stories from relatives
Cougrrrs Roll
5/17/23 11:11am
Yea probably 9 of the top 10 kids for my year at the U, were BYU kids
cougfanz
5/17/23 11:29am
Similar experience with Dental. BYU does a great job, Dr. Heckman is the best
rbr
5/17/23 7:26pm
Well that proves it!
kos
5/17/23 4:09am
Somebody very familiar with the program gave him advice that his chances were better graduating from WSU than BYU.
Ragnar Danneskjold
5/17/23 8:36am
Are you really denying the anti-LDS, anti-BYU bias of the UofU med school and training programs? This has been well
Yllage Vidiot
5/17/23 9:23am
Seems much more compelling than your argument.
ochobeeguy
5/17/23 11:20am
I don’t think saying you transferred to Weber and then got in really proved
kos
5/17/23 7:59pm
I don't think being a Ute fan and saying this doesn't happen is very compelling.
ochobeeguy
5/18/23 8:59am
My point was - that was the advice he was given by somebody with experience.
Ragnar Danneskjold
5/18/23 9:03am
That’s fair.
kos
5/19/23 6:22am
Ha, that’s a bold move. Glad it paid off but that’s silly.
cougfanz
5/17/23 11:06am
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vagabonder
5/16/23 9:34pm
I don't think it's changed much. I know a BYU grad that was accepted a couple of
Team Chaos
5/16/23 9:34pm
Male and pale. Don’t love Mormons.
BlooCoog
5/16/23 9:37pm
I think they just have an anti local bias for med and PA school
The Kavorka
5/16/23 9:37pm
I'll I know is the DESB accepted all the BYU rejects when I started my Masters.
WhyaskY?
5/16/23 9:44pm
What year did you start?
dYrtbYkerYder
5/16/23 9:47pm
2001
WhyaskY?
5/16/23 9:51pm
DESB?
AZcougLawyer
5/16/23 10:20pm
Dark electric shade of blue?
akbarishiwatsu
5/16/23 10:52pm
Sorry, does this mean UCLA?
eyes4byu
5/16/23 11:07pm
David Eccles School of Business. I think.
Madam Pattirini
5/17/23 10:02am
My neighbor’s kid (BYU grad, summa cum laude, etc) was accepted to a Top 5
Richardo
5/16/23 9:54pm
I believe this as I saw similar things when a student at the U SOM.
Sam's Dad
5/16/23 10:05pm
There is a real anti-Mormon bias at the U of U. My father was a faculty member
BlooCoog
5/16/23 11:27pm
I am assured by CB ALUFs that this is definitely 100% false.
zsmooth
5/17/23 7:28am
Applied to their med school twice, gen surg residency, and vascular surgery. 0/4
Boring
5/16/23 10:09pm
In other words racism
BYU Grounds
5/17/23 6:11am
the U Med School is obsessed with DEI
Littlerich
5/16/23 10:20pm
I did 2 fellowships there and was a faculty radiologist there for 4 years, but I
Littlerich
5/16/23 10:26pm
People in the state if Utah and on this board vastly overrate the U’s med school
cougfanz
5/17/23 11:37am
Isn’t that true for medical schools in general?
JuicyJam
5/17/23 9:18am
Unfortunately, yes, but I think the UofU is more concerned with it
Littlerich
5/17/23 9:53am
Yes, as are all medical schools. White males are rarely accepted anymore unless
BYUlv
5/17/23 12:41pm
I will add that my nephew was rejected by the U but accepted by Johns Hopkins.
BYUlv
5/17/23 12:47pm
Wow
Ironhide
5/17/23 1:13pm
It’s been this way for several decades.
Nakedbootleg
5/16/23 10:29pm
Here was the reality in 2002 (I can only assume it’s similar now)
Medute
5/16/23 10:33pm
So they choose lesser candidates then? Good strategy
BYU '80
5/16/23 10:46pm
Yes, they pass up amazing candidates because they are worried about the optics
Littlerich
5/16/23 10:52pm
I think they receive hundreds, if not thousands, of qualified applicants
Medute
5/16/23 11:05pm
“. . . and missionary experience”? Nasty.
AZcougLawyer
5/16/23 11:40pm
Certainly wasn’t meant to be nasty. These applications just look very similar
Medute
5/17/23 6:38am
Why is religion even a consideration? Isn’t that discrimination?
ThundaDan
5/17/23 7:50am
It’s all the rage.
AZcougLawyer
5/17/23 8:01am
It’s not and that’s not the point
Medute
5/17/23 8:23am
Yes, makes sense. When I suffer an aneurysm, I won't care much
CaughtForaTouchdown
5/17/23 1:44pm
You must have missed the part where I said they were qualified
Medute
5/17/23 2:58pm
So really - all these candidates pooled have exactly the same
CaughtForaTouchdown
5/17/23 5:01pm
Again, lots of twisting of words going on here
Medute
5/17/23 5:22pm
I guess I better find out all the background info about my doc to make sure his
thewaterboy
5/17/23 1:57pm
You're missing the point
CaughtForaTouchdown
5/17/23 5:03pm
And what if lots of people are capable of doing the job?
Medute
5/17/23 5:44pm
🤮🤮🤮 I would much rather be treated by a doctor who is excellent than one who
BYUlv
5/17/23 2:18pm
Just before my colonoscopy yesterday I found that my DR had graduated U of U
52Cougar
5/17/23 3:01pm
Glad it went down. Must have been exciting for you to have him to go in there.
Malathion
5/17/23 4:10pm
Good for you! Being able to trust your doctor is vital. The top characteristic I
BYUlv
5/17/23 4:23pm
Same. I picked a female internal medicine doc for my primary care physician
Medute
5/17/23 4:59pm
In before message board geniuses posts a screenshot
byuTX
5/17/23 10:39pm
There already is a lot of discrimination in the college acceptance process. Why
TailgateU
5/17/23 8:27am
I applied for a job at the dental school there and never heard back. Later
tony
5/17/23 10:05am
RE: Certainly wasn’t meant to be nasty. These applications just look very
Travelhacker
5/17/23 11:51am
Reminds me of my interview at Colorado
Medute
5/17/23 11:58am
Yes. But so does everyone else.
lilpenny
5/17/23 7:28am
Utah isn't the only place to do this. I'm (adjunct) faculty at another public
BrighamJung
5/16/23 10:52pm
There are schools that try to get as many as they can. MCW was one, until a new
Littlerich
5/16/23 10:55pm
It’s a problem only if admissions folk value the wrong things
BYU '80
5/16/23 11:03pm
What precisely is the problem, and why is it good to have?
AZcougLawyer
5/16/23 11:41pm
Problem= high number of BYU grads seeking competitive positions that have
BrighamJung
5/17/23 7:48am
Thanks. Longterm phenomenon means BYU is a heavyweight (?).
AZcougLawyer
5/17/23 8:00am
Even in the age of DEI BYU does remarkably well with the whitest applicant pool
BrighamJung
5/17/23 11:15pm
For some reason I find the existence of this data sheet hilarious
Resurgens
5/18/23 7:37am
More hilarity:
BrighamJung
5/18/23 7:54am
Oregon health science university did the same thing with their dental school a
Blue chunks
5/16/23 11:14pm
It completely depends on how many qualified applicants you get
Medute
5/17/23 6:39am
Side Q - is there an uptick in DO school applicants?
ExitStageLeft
5/17/23 6:42am
I have no idea
Medute
5/17/23 9:55am
Yes, no question imo. The quality of DO applicants has totally benefited
cougfanz
5/17/23 11:53am
RE: It completely depends on how many qualified applicants you get
Blue chunks
5/17/23 9:05am
Agree 100%.. you could fill 2-4 full classes with byu kids who would be totally
cougfanz
5/17/23 11:26am
My story
Burton162
5/16/23 11:00pm
RE: My story
PNWCougarFan
5/17/23 7:21am
Sounds like they’re seriously deserving of a lawsuit.
AZcougLawyer
5/17/23 8:04am
Know any good lawyers?
thirdgencoug
5/17/23 7:37pm
BYU is one of the top schools in the nation for number of undergraduate students
Gentleman Stan
5/16/23 11:05pm
Did my general practice residency at the hospital in 1987. It was common
Pine
5/16/23 11:06pm
Amen! Eventually quality will be all that matters…after we all grow up.
Blue chunks
5/16/23 11:18pm
I.e. when He’s the only physician we need.
AZcougLawyer
5/17/23 8:06am
Cuz we’re dead.
AZcougLawyer
5/17/23 8:19am
I went to the University of Nebraska, who recruited BYU hard during those
Pine
5/16/23 11:19pm
It was the same when I was at BYU in the late 90’s.
cougERdoc
5/16/23 11:22pm
One final thought. I think I remember reading that one of the reasons President
Pine
5/16/23 11:30pm
Yes he even said so specifically in his book. The U of U’s anti Mormon lean has
Blue chunks
5/17/23 12:43am
Do a DNA test that shows you are 2% minority
baldcoug74
5/17/23 12:35am
Aaaaaaahhhh….Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren…. 1/1064th American Indian. Have I
BleedCougarBlue2
5/17/23 1:17am
This is not a joke. My son has a friend who was accepted to the U med school
BYUlv
5/17/23 1:27pm
Back in 1996, I got called back to U Med school for a 3rd interview…
BamaCoug
5/17/23 6:01am
Felt similarly after being put on the wait list and then called a month later by Vickie Judd
5150man
5/17/23 7:20am
Summed up, U of U generally sucks all they way around.
cougar95
5/17/23 6:48am
It’s more simple than you think. Every year, they take a set number of students
Marb
5/17/23 7:21am
What posters are saying is simultaneously true. This does not detract. Lies,
AZcougLawyer
5/17/23 8:11am
It’s actually closer to 700 BYU grads who go into medicine.
Boring
5/17/23 1:43pm
I have a cousin who graduated from BYU and is now at UofU med school
Strawhat4life
5/17/23 7:24am
Single data point
AZcougLawyer
5/17/23 8:13am
indeed it is... these are all single data points
Strawhat4life
5/17/23 8:29am
My son and his mission companion/BYU room-mate are finishing their 2nd year now.
Kilgore Trout
5/17/23 7:45am
There were about 10 of us from Weber State that were rejected by them
Bill
5/17/23 7:54am
Based on all these interview stories, they deserve a class action suit.
AZcougLawyer
5/17/23 8:16am
My Daughter's friends were asked at the U if they wanted tea or coffee
BillyGoat
5/17/23 8:16am
[swear] yeah! Mix ‘em! Throw some vodka in! And throw in their faces.
AZcougLawyer
5/17/23 8:25am
Perfect illustration of how they use “diversity” to cloak religious bigotry.
Pine
5/17/23 8:22am
That's incredibly bigoted and unprofessional. I'd have walk out right then.
Penske Material
5/17/23 10:48am
Glad you think it's funny mr utefootballgm
Bill
5/17/23 11:27am
On brand for them. They are who they are.
Ironhide
5/17/23 1:29pm
This is anecdotal evidence only, but my nephew got in Utah’s medical school..
Fin4Evr
5/17/23 8:18am
Anecdotal evidence. Gimme a break.
GenXUte
5/17/23 8:35am
This is what every graduate school does, and undergrad to a lesser degree
Strawhat4life
5/17/23 9:01am
RE: I have heard more stories lately of BYU grads applying to U Med School not
Skidmark
5/17/23 8:38am
It's a state school and it should prioritize educating those who are state resid
BluebloodOR
5/17/23 8:55am
Not true. I know someone who is a state resident and a BYU grad who got in the
tamasiaina
5/17/23 10:51am
That's what I'm saying. As a state school they *should* prioritize educating
BluebloodOR
5/17/23 10:53am
Gotcha ... Lazy reader here (me)
tamasiaina
5/17/23 11:02am
I don’t think it’s crazy. There aren’t that many openings and they want a
JuicyJam
5/17/23 9:04am
This has been an issue in the past
Doc Buff
5/17/23 9:12am
My Story
jacksoncoug
5/17/23 9:14am
I don't think it is a bias. I think they receive so many applicants from Utah or kids who went to Utah schools (ie BYU)
Cougstreak
5/17/23 9:16am
I think legislatures need to do a better job outlining funding expectations
Turnpike Lane
5/17/23 9:16am
RE: I have heard more stories lately of BYU grads applying to U Med School not
PNWCougarFan
5/17/23 9:18am
RE: I have heard more stories lately of BYU grads applying to U Med School not
lindoncoug
5/17/23 9:21am
Good for him. My HCBW had lasik done there a few months back and the whole
Penske Material
5/17/23 12:22pm
I did my executive MBA at the U of U many years ago. There were several U. Med
Hoopster
5/17/23 9:22am
I was a 4.0 science GPA applicant in 1995. I got accepted at top schools, including MD/PhD programs, but not the UofU.
Yllage Vidiot
5/17/23 9:30am
My brother applied years ago, maybe 2005-ish. He was denied at the yew, but was
Penske Material
5/17/23 9:47am
Yeah, but GenXUte had this to say.
TailgateU
5/17/23 9:50am
Individual experience can vary but my personal experience there was fantastic
Oat'n'bow
5/17/23 10:23am
I'm grateful this was my experience. Early 90's.
SouthAnch
5/17/23 10:54am
Rumor mill is that if you put in your mission on your application they will most
tamasiaina
5/17/23 10:52am
Literally every person I know who went to med school at the U served a mission. I have no clue if they...
Cougstreak
5/17/23 11:04am
I did. If you use your mission to show additional commitment to that area
cougfanz
5/17/23 11:06am
This reminds me of a story an old bishop of mine told. He and another member of
thewaterboy
5/17/23 10:53am
I applied and interviewed there (was an out of state student) and didn’t get in
Resurgens
5/17/23 10:56am
RE: I have heard more stories lately of BYU grads applying to U Med School not
Mbcoug79
5/17/23 1:07pm
It's a white Mormon male thing more than a BYU thing.
Countcougula
5/17/23 1:31pm
This is true
Littlerich
5/17/23 2:02pm
The term you are looking for is “medical student”. Can’t stand “student doctor”. We don’t say “student lawyer” or
Yllage Vidiot
5/17/23 10:17pm
Go to 28sec and this is how you interview at the U of U School of Medicine!
cowbellcoug
5/17/23 1:41pm
My BIL got in
Your Royal Blueness
5/17/23 2:14pm
RE: I have heard more stories lately of BYU grads applying to U Med School not
drdukejones
5/17/23 2:38pm
RE: I have heard more stories lately of BYU grads applying to U Med School not
drdukejones
5/17/23 2:41pm
I applied in 2005 as Out of state resident, didn't even get a sniff...
MrSandman
5/17/23 3:02pm
Is it more of an anti-I'm-from-Utah Bias?
footballjunkie
5/17/23 3:19pm
Two things: 1) Most of us rejected by the UofU are not from Utah. 2) The mandate of the med school is to train docs who
Yllage Vidiot
5/18/23 9:47am
RE: Two things: 1) Most of us rejected by the UofU are not from Utah. 2) The
footballjunkie
5/18/23 10:43am
There real question is how many white mormon males fill the 6 Idaho slots
Jonahsdad
5/17/23 3:44pm
U of U med school has its own agenda/criteria
hunkahunka
5/17/23 3:46pm
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juantoad
5/17/23 3:48pm
My son was rejected by the U this cycle.
byujdmba
5/17/23 6:09pm
Couple of points that need to be made:
Pine
5/17/23 7:03pm
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