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Is it true That Club/travel ball is killing youth sports?
Goliath
CB users union organizer
1/24/23 9:30pm
That’s also my perspective from the inside.
garyfan
1/24/23 9:31pm
Sad. My 7th grader never really got into bball,and I never pushed it hard even though I have loved watching and playing
Goliath
1/24/23 9:41pm
Yes. 100 percent
A Drew Aitch
1/24/23 9:35pm
It also makes for less pick up ball with your buddies
A Drew Aitch
1/24/23 9:39pm
Local rec leagues (Little League Baseball) get wrecked.
garyfan
1/24/23 9:40pm
I see that happening with basketball in my town
Goliath
1/24/23 9:42pm
Most rec leagues are not even worth playing the skill level is so low
johnnybyu
1/24/23 9:57pm
Sad but true
SJS
1/24/23 9:58pm
Pay $100 and your kids team up with a bunch of kids that don't like anything but their parents force them to play, or
shimmy
1/24/23 11:46pm
One of the saddest consequences of turning little kids into ...
KCFan85
1/25/23 12:24am
It depends on the sport, For our area, baseball is the biggest sport where club
bald man
1/25/23 6:52am
I'm personally seeing more injuries as well. Kids are just putting too much on
ordinary tri guy
1/24/23 9:41pm
Wonder how that worked for those of us who did a different sport all year long. Maybe we saw fewer serious injuries
Soupie
1/24/23 9:57pm
I think playing multiple sports is absolutely beneficial. Also, a lot of kids throw baseballs too much, too hard, and
shimmy
1/25/23 12:15am
Training information I read says multiple sports effectively cross-trains you
ssa
1/25/23 9:06am
I haven’t seen this but ultimately more games = more chance of injury so it
palangi
1/24/23 10:05pm
My sons knees and joints were totally overworked by the time he left high school
sandiegocgrfan
1/24/23 10:53pm
I don't remember overuse injuries being a big deal when I was a kid. But now?
KCFan85
1/25/23 12:21am
Were you playing the same sport all year or different sports?
ordinary tri guy
1/25/23 8:50am
It’s killing communities because it’s mercenaries from 12 different cities
Iman23
1/24/23 9:47pm
Happened with my kid with parents that we had played years with and were going
BYUheaven
1/24/23 9:55pm
Baseball may be the worst or basketball due to numbers. baseball parents are
johnnybyu
1/24/23 9:58pm
I’m knee deep in it too and every parent as nice as they are, would jump ship
Atama
1/24/23 10:20pm
What sport is this? This sounds like a wild experience.
shimmy
1/24/23 11:43pm
That is the club baseball scene in Utah. You play each other in tournaments,
BYUheaven
1/25/23 8:58am
And younger. I’ve seen it with 8 year olds.
Atama
1/25/23 11:31am
We were sucked into club sports. It deprived my kids of experiencing lots of
sandiegocgrfan
1/24/23 9:48pm
My sons Rec league is so bad that it’s actually embarrassing to watch. It’s
Iman23
1/24/23 9:52pm
It’s producing the best players of sport in the history of sport, it’s also not
kotacoug
1/24/23 9:53pm
Not according to Kobe.
777
1/24/23 10:32pm
Why not? Competition level is higher and more even. It’s more fun for the
FieroCoug
1/24/23 10:45pm
Kids aren’t well rounded. Their sport is everything. proabbly not a great
kotacoug
1/25/23 9:19am
Im sure that’s true for some but once kids get to high school, travel ball
FieroCoug
1/25/23 9:28am
Nope, the good, serious players in most sports do both in high school.
Scratch
1/25/23 9:37am
In volleyball and soccer, maybe cheer, but most other sports they don’t.
FieroCoug
1/25/23 11:09am
Still tons of baseball travel and showcase teams out there. And AAU basketball.
Scratch
1/25/23 11:12am
Yep. Travel summer baseball is even incorporated into the HS programs here
ssa
1/25/23 3:59pm
Volleyball, basketball, soccer, cheer, gymnastics, softball, baseball and basically everything but football. And
shimmy
1/25/23 11:29am
Not sure what you mean on no travel for H.S. kids. That is probably when it's at
ordinary tri guy
1/25/23 11:33am
Closer to 1,200 teams. 400+ from each class.
shimmy
1/25/23 3:12pm
Yea, I think there is 600 just in the 2025 class
ordinary tri guy
1/25/23 4:19pm
I believe this same thing happens n basketball and girls soccer as well.
Atama
1/25/23 4:48pm
Also just takes up so much time they can't do multiple sports
Gustav
1/24/23 9:54pm
That’s not always the case. Wasn’t in our’s.
Busting Coveys
1/24/23 9:55pm
This is my biggest complaint. Kids specialize so unless your kids is an elite
johnnybyu
1/24/23 10:00pm
My son played HS baseball but also played Rec YMCA basketball with some HS
kotacoug
1/24/23 10:04pm
Rec basketball and football can be fun. Rec baseball is terrible. Club baseball
johnnybyu
1/24/23 10:05pm
This depends on your area. Little League is great in areas and a joke in others. If you live in an area with a strong
shimmy
1/24/23 11:58pm
This isn't really true until high school, but if you are looking for ROI, you are right. It's an idiotic investment.
shimmy
1/24/23 11:48pm
Depends on the sport
Gustav
1/25/23 5:24am
They're all year round, but you can play something diet in the slower season.
shimmy
1/25/23 6:19am
It’s possible to still navigate a decent rec sports experience up to 12 or 13 IF
Memmo
1/24/23 9:54pm
My 11 year old son’s rec bball coach is a college bball head coach.
Corn
1/24/23 9:57pm
Until college coaches recruit high school games/matches, this is how it will be.
COACHdrn
1/24/23 10:02pm
The issue is you can recruit 10x the amount of kids at club tournaments over hs
1984coug
1/25/23 1:19pm
Travel baseball for my son was a lot of fun. He loved it and made a lot of good friends. Many of which he’s still
Busting Coveys
1/24/23 10:04pm
Same for my daughter and volleyball.
Corn
1/24/23 10:11pm
I agree with this, I understood the op to mean killing youth sports as in very
palangi
1/24/23 10:28pm
I'm curious what was the monthly cost of the travel team?
CT98
1/24/23 11:20pm
Our’s wasn’t that expensive. We’d start throwing indoors in January. First tournament in March. Last tournament in
Busting Coveys
1/25/23 6:24am
For comparison purposes
SJS
1/25/23 8:34am
I can see that. We weren’t nearly as competitive as you guys. I don’t foresee any of our players playing after high
Busting Coveys
1/25/23 9:08am
if your child is the star, club/travel will always be great. If you child is not
bald man
1/25/23 7:11am
My son was on a traveling soccer team for a couple years and now he won’t even
JamDownSouth
1/24/23 10:05pm
Yes, esp for big families. Having multiple kids in club sports at once isn't
wisconsincougs
1/24/23 10:09pm
I have 4 sons. All of them on competitive baseball teams. 4-10 practices per week on average anywhere from 1-2 weekend
Zach Morris
1/24/23 10:31pm
I'm curious how much you pay per month for the 4 boys combined?
CT98
1/24/23 11:17pm
Thankfully we’re not part of any of the “fancy” clubs. On average we pay around a one time $500 per kid for registration
Zach Morris
1/24/23 11:32pm
When I was a kid rec baseball in Utah sucked. You’d start in early April and be
Scratch
1/24/23 10:41pm
It's created the haves and have nots. Rec league in my area is decent. All the
777
1/24/23 10:45pm
It depends what the goal is. My son has played club soccer for years.
hoser
1/24/23 10:59pm
Truth …
sandiegocgrfan
1/24/23 11:22pm
I'm not even impressed with the travel leagues. All of the elitism has created
777
1/24/23 11:04pm
It's funny how many parents spend tens of thousands on club/travel teams
AZ Coug
1/24/23 11:10pm
Anyone doing club sports for the sole (or even secondary) purpose of getting a
garyfan
1/24/23 11:12pm
Then what is the point? I mean I realize that the politics of HS sports is so
777
1/24/23 11:24pm
For some, it’s about helping the kid have friendships. For others, it’s a status
garyfan
1/24/23 11:31pm
My kid's best friends are his teammates. My friends are the teammates parents. My kid loves to compete with his friends
shimmy
1/24/23 11:54pm
Yeah, it's all based on the area you live. If my rec league was terrible I'd
777
1/25/23 12:09am
I love both, and I will say that making a run at state in little league is more fun than winning a big travel tournament
shimmy
1/25/23 12:13am
Elitism depends on one's viewpoint
akbarishiwatsu
1/25/23 11:08am
Often, if a hs sport has a club option, colleges rarely recruit out of hs events
1984coug
1/25/23 9:36am
Deseret News ran an article about exactly that just a few years ago.
KCFan85
1/25/23 12:18am
In my community it is much less about “elitism” and much more about do you want to play city ball where the teams are
Zach Morris
1/24/23 11:39pm
Smiley for the Stanley comment. I can understand that. Where I live the
777
1/24/23 11:43pm
Im a big baseball guy and what I’ve seen from my nephews in Utah is laughable.
Memmo
1/24/23 11:44pm
Californias great year round weather and unusual population density definitely affords more options for people. Imagine
Zach Morris
1/24/23 11:48pm
Im coaching my son’s rec team. He plays club soccer so I’m not paying for both.
Memmo
1/24/23 11:54pm
If your high school sport has a club equivalent, the club will be a higher level
1984coug
1/24/23 11:21pm
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byuiforever
1/24/23 11:29pm
If you don’t mind, what offers does your son have?
garyfan
1/24/23 11:34pm
Only one school that matters to us!
sandiegocgrfan
1/24/23 11:50pm
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byuiforever
1/24/23 11:53pm
While I don't think its true for baseball, but you can tell who is D1 talent
bald man
1/25/23 7:32am
The UBC 16s w/ Tiger, Sefa, Malcom, KJ, Ace, Logan, Reece, Sam, Diego, & Jared?
BillyGoat
1/25/23 9:20am
Doubled edged. Better competition and development for the really good players
Countcougula
1/24/23 11:49pm
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The_ATL
1/25/23 6:05am
We all want to live vicariously through our children.
coolblue
1/25/23 6:25am
About three years ago, it was much more healthy for me when I learned not to
BYUheaven
1/25/23 10:52am
There is a wide divide...with 6 boys and a busy church and work schedule, we
Fdnman
1/25/23 6:38am
There is an untold cost
Repete397
1/25/23 7:58am
My girls high school vball coach, was an assistant then head coach
bald man
1/25/23 8:36am
I think there are still some very good options, at least where I live
lukeskywalker
1/25/23 8:01am
7v7 is turning into the same. We are traveling both coasts every weekend.
Cougstreak
1/25/23 8:31am
If anything, there are more youth sports options for people to pick what works best for them, even though there are
Odysseus
1/25/23 9:16am
I agree, there are a ton of options. I think "specialization" is killing certain sports in local markets, it depends...
Cougstreak
1/25/23 9:55am
We have lost (and not just in sports) the sense of community that used to exist
cougarmeister
1/25/23 9:28am
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but we’ve gotten to know a lot more people of different backgrounds BECAUSE of
Odysseus
1/25/23 11:22am
My 11 year old son is on a traveling basketball team. He played for another
Superman21
1/25/23 9:29am
It depends what 'killing' means
WiCougarman
1/25/23 9:32am
RE: Is it true That Club/travel ball is killing youth sports?
Dat_rmishner
1/25/23 10:09am
This thread is kind of depressing. I just wish my kids could try a bunch of
Great38
1/25/23 10:30am
They still can. The path is different and more difficult now, but they still can.
shimmy
1/25/23 10:45am
There are a couple of ways to do this:
Memmo
1/25/23 10:49am
I choose option #1
Great38
1/25/23 10:58am
Have them do the non tryout sports. Football, Wrestling, and Track.
Gorum the Old
1/25/23 2:28pm
I'm in a similar situation and here is what my kids did/do
Gorum the Old
1/25/23 2:38pm
Club/travel sports killed the enjoyment of youth sports a long time ago.
TrueBlue67
1/25/23 10:51am
RE: Is it true That Club/travel ball is killing youth sports?
Jugarnot
1/25/23 10:57am
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